this album is a classic…i’m not a fan of industrial or popular music at all…i hate the stuff, to be honest with you…it’s terrible, trite and repetitive and it’ll more than likely go the way of disco. but this…this is amazing. i’ve never liked marilyn manson’s albums very much either, but this is a bona fide classic. and i love every song on this cd…the lyrics are incredibly clever, and the music is catchy and not radio friendly at the same time…and i want to tell the christians that have reviewed this cd and the teen dabblers alike that not all christians are uptight freaks of nature who think Satan made rock and roll…i’m a christian, i love this album and i listen to hardcore and metal…so everyone can shut up about christians not thinking for themselves and being mindless drones for the church. for starters…catholics are the ones with “The Church” and fundamentalists are the psychopaths who burn records at demonstrations and protest shows…we’re not all soccer mom psychos and we’re not all anal retentive morons, either. SOME of us appreciate good music…so lay off already. the best songs on this album in my opinion are Irresponsible Hate Anthem, Mr. Superstar, Tourniquet [one of my favorite songs, period, actually] and 1996…well…i liked that one more when i was thirteen…but it’s still decent when you’re really in a bad mood. i don’t listen to this that often anymore…but it’s good to know that the album is still amazing nine years after you bought it initially.
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I don’t care what any youth-group or money-grubbing, hypocritical preacher says (that means YOU, Pat Robertson) This guy isn’t as bad as you religious nuts say he is. It’s no less of an act than Ziggy Stardust. Shock-rock, you say? The shock is all in your head. Just like Slim Shady, he is whatever you say he is and he doesn’t really care one way or the other so long as he’s making an impression on you. Be it fear or fondness.I don’t get why everyone fights over Marilyn Manson. The church groups dislike him because he’s just another thing they don’t understand and the music fans complain that he is a sell out. How did he sell out? Everything’s fine until you leave the underground and become popular isn’t it? Then you’re just crap. That’s a wonderful way to treat somebody who’s busting their hump to make music for your discerning taste.Brian may borrow from some other past looks and ideals (David Bowie, Gary Numan, Alice Cooper) but he does have his own style and agenda. Speaking of Alice.. Didn’t that old geezer get “saved” or some kinda junk? There’s your sell-out right in front of you. When Brian prays for forgiveness on his death-bed.. then and only then will I call him a sell out. And maybe that will be his last shock before he leaves us…And here’s a shocker, every band you listen to now can be traced back to a band from before.. so they’re >ALL< copying off of somebody. Originality is dead and has been dead ever since 'retro' got big. But when given the choice I'd rather listen to this than that Debbie Gibson knock-off, Brittany Spears. I want music that is trying to say something to me other than "Drink pepsi and look at my perky breasts!"I do like some underground and lesser known bands but some stuff is just too hard to get into. Mr. Manson’s music is exciting compared to what else is out there on the radio and TV. He makes goth palatable for those like me who’re too lazy to try and understand Joy Division or Sisters of Mercy. NIN did the same thing for industrial. Skinny Puppy and Thrill Kill Cult are fine and dandy but some of it is just too eclectic, and who wants to listen to a band they >DON’T< like just so they can be cool and fit in? Not that those aren’t good bands. I prefer stuff like Mindless Self Indulgence, Inkkubus Sukkubus, Ophelia Rising, Razed in Black, VNV Nation, Cruxshadows, and the awesome japanese metal band: Malice Mizer (ironic that Manson is rumored to have consulted Mana for his fashion ideas ^.^) and us “goth” folks don’t know real metal? Try SLAYER on for size and forget Slipknot ever existed.It amazes me they STILL show the same video in youth-group and sunday school about how horrible Slayer and Dungeons and Dragons is for out prescious little children. So if the christians are still yapping about them now.. they must’ve done SOMETHING right. I have a wide and varied musical taste. I don’t sit around all day listening to ONLY Nine Inch Nails and Marylin Manson. And I DON’T watch MTV, atleast not since the recent influx of hip-pop and the rap-rock scene. Okay, now that I’m done ranting.This >IS< a good album, although I do prefer their ealier stuff like "Portrait of An American Family" they were alot less produced back then and had a more realistic guitar driven sound with less synth. But that's not saying that 'Antichrist' isn't good. Some of the songs like "Tourniquet" and "Beautiful People" are very memorable. "Man That You Fear" is very sad but not as good as the Pink Floyd-ish "Speed of Pain" (compare to Comfortably Numb) from the album 'Mechanical Animals'The other songs are good as well but most folks are too lazy to listen to an album all the way through so they never get to hear them. I love “The Reflecting God,” its like Brian is talking about how he creates his own world inside his mind and in that world he is his own God and no one can touch him. He creates and destroys as he sees fit. I love an artist who can criticize himself.”World spreads its legs for another star.”Brian sold himself to his music and his image. He’s just another star for us to crucify/sanctify and he knows full well that he is martyring himself for his cause, becoming the anti-christ that everyone loves to hate or the alledged “sell-out” that everyone loves to take shots at and he honestly doesn’t give a damn what you think. In his world, you don’t exist.. ‘You can kill yourself now because your dead in my mind’He does his own thing and if you like him and get the joke, that’s great. If you don’t understand and you protest at his concerts and blame your children’s suicides/school shootings on his songs, well that’s good too. No such thing as “Bad Press.” Your fear and stupidity sell the records for him the same way it did for Ozzy Osbourne and Slayer. The same goes for Eminem. If the preachers and parents hate it then that gives the kiddies all the more reason to buy it, crank it loud and proud, and aggravate the heck out of you with it.Oh c’mon.. like you didn’t drive your folks crazy with KISS, Black Sabbath, or AC/DC in the 70’s when you were a young’un? Back in YOUR parents’ day that was theeee evil music right there *snickers* Now its in constant rotation on the Classic Rock radio stations. I wonder what my kids will be listening to when… Oh wait, I don’t have any kids.. But if I did, I’d eat them with fava beans and a nice kiante. “I’ve always measured sucess not only by the ammount of people that love you but the ones that hate you too. I like to provoke people so that they think. I think that’s a healthy part of entertainment… that you don’t get too much from the Spice Girls.”-Rev. Brian Warner, David Letterman interview.
Okay, I like Marilyn Manson. At least his music. I don’t compare him to Alice Cooper because I don’t see Brian Warner out there swinging golf clubs on VH1’s Fairway to Heaven. It may be easy to dismiss Marilyn Manson as all shock and no value, but that wouldn’t be accurate. It is also easy to say that Brian Warner is Trent Reznor’s brainchild, but that isn’t entirely true either. What I do think, is of the three full length studio cds that Marilyn Manson has made, Antichrist Superstar is the best, most cohesive effort. It’s right on the mark for angry, grungy angst. I can’t think of another artist who does this kind of music so well. It’s not speed metal where all meaning is lost, it’s not hard rock which is more friendly and accessible. This album is dark and angry and it’s great for that reason. 1998’s Mechanical Animals shows Brian moving in a more Bowie-esque direction and while that’s interesting, Antichrist Superstar is more Brian’s pace. Although Trent Reznor produced, Brian still manages to keep the music and lyrics in his own arena. A must have for any rock collector.
When this came out, People were blown away. Parents and Christians began picketing (And still do) his concerts; not realizing that they are only adding to the fuel of the fire. A large portion of what I can say about Antichrist Superstar can be said in Manson’s own Autobiography the Long Hard Road Out of Hell, so instead of repeating what is said in that marvelous book, I shall state how I discovered Marilyn Manson, the meanings, and what I think of Antichrist Superstar.
I live/grew up on the edge of my town, without cable and very few people around me. Therefore it was quite easy for my parents to shield me from the world. I grew up as a kid with a foggy idea of what was around me so to say. The one thing about my parents was that they were not very religious. I have never gone to church except for weddings and funerals. Heck, I didn’t really find out about the concept of God until fourth grade.(Yet I knew what Christmas was; thank you Public Schools!) I had always heard of Marilyn Manson and when you “hear of” Marilyn Manson, you hear the Rumors of Marilyn Manson. I thought he was a psycho who did things with his ribs. When the whole Columbine thing happened, I was afraid that listening to his music would brainwash me. At the time the only song of his I heard (Still thought was good, but was afraid of listening to it) was the song on the Spawn Soundtrack that has the same title as his book. After a period of time and occasionally hearing a song here and there, (Rock is Dead, Sweet Dreams) I wanted go deeper into what Manson is all about and examined his music and messages carefully. What ended up happening is that Manson is now one of my favorite Artists/bands and I own all of his/their records. Ironic isn’t it?
The album Antichrist Superstar is a concept album which tells the story of the rise and fall of the Antichrist Superstar. It’s his growing up as a worm; to becoming the man that you fear. It is a view on our society and how it functions. It has the reputation as Manson’s darkest and most industrial album. There are 3 Parts. This is how the story unfolds.
Part 1: The Heirophant
Irresponsible hate Anthem: It’s February 14, 1997 (Valentines Day) The Antichrist has risen, but we most go back to the beginning to understand his origins.
The Beautiful People: The Worm is born into a world where you must look good to succeed in life. (Awesome Video too)
Dried Up, Tied and Dead to the World: Throughout childhood the Worm has been used by people so that they can succeed and not him.
Tourniquet: This is the Worms’s love life; every woman has taken advantage of him as well. He tries to create “the perfect woman”, (see the video) but in the end he is her tourniquet and he is back to square 1. (Or so it seems)
Part 2: Inauguration of the Worm
Little Horn: Dark clouds begin to gather and The Worm is growing. He tries to save others, but he knows he can’t. On an additional note, Little Horn appears in the Bible in the book of Daniel. He was a man that spoke out against god, it is often interpreted that Little Horn is the Antichrist.
Cryptorchild: Even though the Worm is weak, his metamorphosis is starting and he will become stronger. (The video for this was banned by the way)
Deformography: This is where he begins to become a rock star and starts to learn the tricks of the trade. Some people start to look at him as a leader.
Wormboy: He is just starting to understand what is happening to him.
Mr. Superstar: A Song that analyzes the way rock stars are seen as gods by their fans. His control over people is growing.
Angel with the Scabbed Wings: His followers and fanatics are doomed, simply put. He is now inhuman.
Kinderfeld: The title is Field of Children in German. Technically it’s about Manson’s grandparents. It’s a type of flashback of when the Superstar was a Worm and he is reflecting on all that he has gone through and prepares himself for the final phase.
Part 3: Disintegrator Rising
Antichrist Superstar: At this point he tells the people that He didn’t do this to them, it was themselves. He has become the monster.
1996: It’s an Election year and the new leader is none other than the Antichrist Superstar. This is the peek of his wrath.
The Minute of Decay: After all the destruction, hardly anything is left and though he might as well go down, he wants to take everyone with him. Surprisingly it’s a slow song.
The Reflecting God: It turns out that at the end, the only God was himself. This is where the whole be your own god attitude comes from (I think). He gives not himself or anyone forgiveness.
Man That You Fear: A nice slow song that shows History repeats itself. Any Worm can become the next Man that you Fear.
Then there are the untitled silent tracks. Track 17 is 9 seconds long, tracks 18-97 are 4 seconds long. And track 98 is 5 seconds long. I have no idea why it’s like that, it just is.
Track 99: It’s a small electro plea from the Antichrist. Is the he really gone? Lyrics are not given and I had to look them up via the net to understand it.
I honestly feel that this album is a masterpiece. The only songs that I occasionally skip are Wormboy, Mr. Superstar, and The Minute of Decay. However it may take a few listens to fully understand everything. Very angry, original and has yet to be copied. Manson used to have my fear but now he has my utmost respect. I hoped this helped.
This is a genre of music I know little about and like even less. It is the first I have heard Marilyn Manson. I only purchased it because I happened across his autobiography (“The Long Hard Road Out of Hell”) and found that so fascinating I was driven to try his music. I am what most Manson listeners would refer to as Establishment, a middle aged conservative housewife. In fact, I’m one of those that Manson wishes to make hate him. He has failed.I chose this album because of the description of its creation in the autobiography, and I find it to be completely consistant in tone and message with his book. Manson is very clear and unwavering about his mission, and has woven it brilliantly into this record. It is every bit the hard, ugly, utterly desolate wasteland that is his self-described soul, and of course, such pathos is the best kind of entertainment.To those of us who love extremes, and can appreciate plunging to the dark depths as much as soaring the pristine heights, such intense music is very therapeutic. We all have a dark side, and Manson treads into it unapologetically. One gets the sense he is holding up a mirror to the devil in all of mankind; in Christian terms, displaying the Fall magnificently.Now, being a hearing-damaged old lady, I will say that the slower, more melodious tracks are the ones that speak to me. To the extent Manson tones down the screeching, the result is as sweet and heartfelt as any love ballad. But as always, it is the lyrics that bring the emotion into the experience, and his lyrics are astounding. “Man That You Fear” for example, is a summary in one song of all the tragedy that was his journey out of childhood and into the damnation he now feels. As with “Tourniquet”, a bitter rendition of innocence spoiling to ruins, and the inevitability of the process (flies will lay their eggs), it is this harsh imagery that is so refreshing, as well as his honesty. What else can the line, “Take your hatred out on me,” be but an open invitation to what society is obliging him by doing?Even if most of the songs exceed my personal listening tolerance for “shards of glass” delivery, their lyrics are incredible. Digesting this album was like going on a rollercoaster ride; intense, frightening, and exhiliarating. I felt as if I had been changed in some way, which is exactly what excellent art should do. This album probes into the very heart of spiritual angst, both on a personal level, and a social level. He’s made no bones about the fact he is on the warpath against institutionalized religion, and seems all too aware that without depraved ugliness such as his, beauty and goodness would have no meaning. This goes to the heart of the question, “why does God allow evil to exist?” The Christian answer might be so that God’s glory can be all the more appreciated. Manson’s role as the AntiChrist can be seen not only in terms of slamming the hypocrisy of religion, but also as giving them exactly what they want. In this album, he gives us a foreshadowing of the very thing they warned him about as a child; the horror of the Apocalypse. He has virtually become the expression of that thing he feared the most. This journey between extreme poles is another clue that he is an artistic force to be reckoned with. Manson has consciously chosen the role of manifesting man’s darker nature, that part which follows Satan, if you will, and this album is a fine presentation of his message. If this is an exposition of the evil AntiChrist, we must ask ourselves a hard question: Is Manson’s dark world really evil, or is the album actually an indictment of sanctimonious “good” people?But, as with the book, one doesn’t need to delve into all the inner meanings to enjoy this music. It has a deep, driving intensity that matches a person’s need for introspective down time; music in which one can indulge one’s more “vulnerable moments”, to borrow a term from the secret reversed intro to track 4. On a practical level, this means it is perfect for when you’re grieving a breakup, are enraged at being wronged, or simply wish to blast yourself with a good, hard, emotional listen. I highly recommend this album to those who like this kind of music, or to the curious who can be very open-minded.